flirting with Arch

I recently made the move from ubuntu to arch linux. i kept asking people to sugguest me a good distro. i told em all i want is that to be a simple, well documented… one. i think i asked them for some more things but i don’t recall them right now. anyways, someone recommened me arch. seen my IM client’s banner(asking for a new distro that is simple…). so i though hey why not give it a try. i mean i have heard of arch before this. i remmember reading about arch been put on a usb drive some time back. so that was the first time i heard about it.

i think for me the main reason to try arch was that, it was said to be a simple, fast, documented distro. fair enough after installing it and bringing it to a stage where i can use my it for my daily tasks. i feel that it is indeed a simple and fairly documented system. i know for a fact that there are many people out there who use the word ’simple’ to identify and discribe there distro. but when it comes to arch you feel that it is a bit more simple than most of those. it tries not to change stuff where it is not really needed.

arch have a package managment system called pacman. which is pretty cool. im a big fan of apt. been with ubuntu for about 2 or 3 years. i have grown so found of apt. i always like debain baised distros. i think apt was a main factor that made me like debian baised distros. i mean rpms were so messy… you run in to all sorts of ‘hells’(dependency hell for a example ;) )…

well i really don’t know how rpm is working these days. but when i first tried it, which was like about 3 or 4 years back. it was a pain in the neck. anyways arch is not baised on debian and it does not have apt. but i find pacman to be faily a cool package manager. it is kinda like apt in some ways. it manages dependencies. you can upgrade your system easily.. just like you would have done a distro upgrade in apt. so i think that was a another reason that made me like arch.

arch and all its apps are compiled for i686 arch. so it runs faster in my lap! which is also a grate thing :) i mean speed is something that will always add value when it comes to computers hehe(i am just speculating… or i am just guessing… so yeah it might not be true in some cases… who knows).

i installed the core packages. and then xorg, gnome… so on. i had a sound problem with ubuntu. but with arch it seems to have gone away. i got the chance to configure more settings in my system when i am installing arch. its basically like i had to get x working, then gnome and then sound… etc etc. but after all if wasn’t that hard. and i found arch wiki and the forums very helpful. i think the wiki is far from compelete but hey i am not complaining! :P it helped me a lot and i am sure it will be improving a lot in the comming months as more and more people add content to it.

arch also so have something like gentoo’s poratge thing called abs. its simply a pakgbuild file and the sources for some application. when you can’t find a application you want in the arch repos you can always search the commiunity supplied arch builds. but even if you failed to find them you can always get the source and compile it your self! lol. i mean i was thinking… what the heck. just go ahead and compile it your self. you don’t always need to download binaries… this is open source and why the hell aren’t we gaining the real advantages by just compiling it on our mashines. which is will result in a faster working program(given that you have set the correct settings… gcc flags… etc etc).  but of course the binary packages have there own set of merits :)

all in all arch is a cool system. if you like what systems like gentoo offers. but if you feel that you aren’t ready for gentoo or something like that just yet, or if you are plain lazy! :P just go with arch. its a do it your self thing(up to a certian extent of cause. they have done a lot of work to make things easier for you… ) + simplicity.

so if you are in search for a new distro give arch a try! you won’t be dissappointed :)

7 Responses to “flirting with Arch”

  1. brad Says:

    can you give MORE details.. i tried arch and failed many times(like 5x), their wiki seems either flawed or I keep missing something.. ifyou have simplier directions, id like to have them (my email is binskipy2u at gmail dot com)
    after installing core.. i pacman -S xorg.. i get like 4 terms open after reboot.. i’m like what the hell?
    i have an ati 9250 card.. if you have simpler steps, id love to see them.. i like arch for its so up to date a nice rolling distro..
    any info would be most appreciated, thanks

  2. silentp33r Says:

    hey i too installed xorg and gnome.. and as root did startx… and yeah the same thing happened to me. try executing startx from your user account(some thing that is not root). and before doing that.

    move this file
    mv /etc/X11/sessions/gnome.desktop.back /etc/X11/sessions/gnome.desktop

    anyways the point is that you need a gnome.desktop file in that folder so startx will start a gnome-session…

    if startx doesn’t work do a pacman -S gdm and start gdm and login in through that… you can select the session type…

    thats what i had to do get gnome working… and hey if you are ok with proprietary drivers install the latest one from AMD’s website… graphics would be much better..

  3. brad Says:

    well i tried again and again and again, and yet again..
    i must be too stupid to install this distro..
    i cant get pacman to sync.. no matter what i do.. i choose “use the same server you used to install”
    for my pacman mirror.. when i do the pacman.conf
    there’s NOTHING in there
    so there’s nothing to sync..
    this isnt worth the trouble..
    but i’m sure its a great distro..
    ill stick with pclinuxos. a great distro (may not be configured for precision or speed, but its fast enougyh for me) but it “just works”
    thanks anyway

  4. EmyrB Says:

    Erm… Can you kinda clarify your statements a little, I mean its only so much of arch is cool we can take. To upgrade your Arch system pacman -Su will work a treat. Don’t select Arch’s main server as it gets very bogged down with traffic, choose another mirror that is close to you during the install, should rectify your pacman.conf issues.

    I chose arch because I couldn’t get Gentoo to install, and after about 12 months of using it on an old Gateway 9500 laptop with a wireless Netgear WG111v2 I have no issues. If in doubt trawl through their wiki or do as I did, ask on the forum. As for PCLinux, tried the KDE version hated it (much prefer Pardus for KDE) so I went with the Gnome version of PCLinux, not bad, some rough edges, but sure isn’t as sweet as Arch.

    Cheers

  5. Anonymous Says:

    I recently switched from Kubuntu to Arch. This is definitely one of the greatest distros. Fast, easy, always up to date, good mix of binary / source, almost everything you could ask for. AUR / ABS are awesome, and yes I agree pacman is also great. I still miss apt (actually aptitude), but pacman is the closest thing I’ve found to it. BTW I’m running KDE (using KDEMod), so I can’t comment on all of the issues some people are having using Gnome.

  6. silentp33r Says:

    brad: did you start off a fresh install? are you using a upto date installation media? well i’ve had all these tiny problems with arch little bugs sometimes but i always managed to get the fixed or find a work around using there wiki/forums and the web… may be you should just spend sometime with some other distro for a while and come back to arch, then things will just work with out too much trouble :) (i mean, you’ll be lucky the next time! and hey after all this is a good learning experience… isn’t it?)

  7. Zoulnix Says:

    If changing from a linux distro like Ubuntu and haven’t really done alot of work configuring your linux dist. Then you should really think about reading through the Arch wiki, and i mean really read through it, and if you can’t find the answer there look at the forum, using google or other distro communities can also be alot of help if you get a error or something.

    I will list some stuff you may want to read in the wiki.
    “Official Install Guide”
    “Beginners Guide”
    “Xorg Setup”
    “ALSA” or/and “OSS” (Sound, you can choose to run with just one or both.)
    “NVIDIA” or “ATI” (Graphic, hopefully you know what card you got.)
    “KDE” / “GNOME” / “XFCE” / “Openbox”
    “Pacman” (Always good to read if you want to know the commands that exist in pacman.)

    Some files you may want have a look at.
    rc.conf
    inittab
    “xinitrc” (comes when you install xorg-xinit)
    “xserverrc”

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